An Update On Village Fresh Market: 11-08-08
It has been a long time coming since Jewel Foods left it’s Lake Marian location to move to Algonquin on Rt. 62 right across from Butera. I couldn’t wait to have a Grocery store back on the east side that sold American cuisine.
I visited the new grocery store called The Village Fresh Market. It’s a beautiful store inside, a little small but for the products they are selling I would imagine it’s all they need.
Where my disappointment comes in is this. We have over 4 Mexican Grocery stores on the east side and now we have another one called the Village Fresh Market. Now all of us who like American food still need to go to Jewel or Butera in another town, Algonquin.
Now, to long time residents it’s a kick in the teeth. I believe our Government let us down here, they are not trying to keep Long time residents here on the east side I believe they are forcing us out of our own town.
Bill Sarto once declined to give a liquor license to a store in the Alliance strip mall stating their were too many already.
Well the same condition exists here with Mexican Grocery stores. We have too many and no store where the original residents of this town can shop.
This is a disgrace and I’m Mad as Hell that the Village let this Happen. Decisions like these are causing long time residents to move.
Is this the Goal of our Village board, take our tax money $250,000 dollars and donate it to a Mexican grocery store and force us, who eat American food to shop somewhere else or move ?
I’ll be shopping in Algonquin and buying my Gas in Cook county since it’s now cheaper than Kane county and will be a lot cheaper than Carpentersville.
Great Job folks? Not!
Richard
41 Comments
April 11, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Wow. We’re supposed to read this and believe that the illegal immigration thing isn’t at least in part fueled by anti-Hispanic sentiment?
“We have over 4 Mexican Grocery stores on the east side and now we another on called the Village Fresh Market. Now all of us who like American food still need to go to Jewel or Butera in another town, Algonquin.”
“…force us who eat American food to shop somewhere else or move?”
This is hilarious! How are intelligent people supposed to ever side with “reasoning” like this? If 4 “Mexican” grocery stores move in and can make a profit, who are you to say that the town should stay exactly the way it is because you have decided to stay there? People have the right to live where they can for as long as they can, but to expect the town to never change is ignorant at best, and selfish at worst!
I know, I know, if there were no illegals, there would be no need for Mexican grocery stores, because, obviously, all the Mexicans that shop at there stores are illegal. That’s logically where your argument goes!
Answer this… if you were a businessman putting a grocery store on the East side in the Fresh Market location, wouldn’t you be a complete idiot NOT to stock it with many Mexican foods? It sounds like whoever put this place up has a brain.
May 27, 2009 at 8:41 am
FIRST OF ALL, NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO SHOP AT THE STORE ARE ILLEGAL. ANOTHER THING IS DAT THEY ARE NOT ALL, MEXICAN…THEY ARE HISPANICS SO IF YOUR GONA COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE THEN GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!!!! ALSO, SOME WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY SHOP THERE. PLESE DONT B SOOOOO SELFISH. THANKS.
April 12, 2008 at 6:38 am
This has nothing to do with Anti Hispanic or illegal Immigration. This has everything to do with keeping Carpentersville viable for all of it’s residents including the ones that originally live here when it was built.
There are elderly people in Carpentersville that have relied on Carpentersville for their staples for decades and since now with the recession and extra taxes on gas you want to send these Grandmas and Grandpas who lived here for 50 years to another town to shop, Brilliant.
We all want Carpentersville to be a nice place to live and would hope our goal would be to keep our long term residents as well as newcomers, but there needs to be some balance.
Provide retail services for all of it’s residents not just a few. The lack of services for the Old time residents has caused them to move out of Carpentersville which makes Capentersville politically unstable.
To answer your last question. Jewel had no problem attracting customers with money at this same location and they provided a full service Grocery store “one stop Shopping”
The only reason Jewel left is because of Besingers who owns the Building and didn’t want to upgrade it after Jewel had been there for over 30 years $$$$$.
The same situation happened to Big Lots who was subletting from Eagle foods after they left. Once that lease was over big Lots took off because of failed negotiations with the Besingers $$$$$.
I guess those who run Jewel and Big Lots had a brain also, get the hell away from Carpentersville and the Besingers.
Once again I’ll state “Nobody’s looking at the Big Picture here”!
April 12, 2008 at 7:30 am
You make it sound like this Fresh Market stocks only pet food with comments like this!
I’d love to know what “American” food is unavailable at this store. Come back with a list of items unavailable there, and you’ll have a leg to stand on. What specifically makes this store “Mexican,” and more importantly, what don’t they have available that makes it “un-American?”
You said: “Now all of us who like American food still need to go to Jewel or Butera in another town, Algonquin.” What specific items are you buying there that are unavailable at the Fresh Market? If you can’t reasonably answer that question, then you’re definition of an “un-American” grocery store is not related to the actual items stocked but something else…
April 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm
well let say we are going to have a 4th of July picnic and we would like to go to one store to buy food for our picnic.
I would normally buy Potato Chips, frozen Burgers, Johnsonville or equivalent Brats, Italian Sausages Hot dog and Hamburger buns, Potato Salad, Cole Slaw, cases of beer etc.
Then foods I would buy just for the hell of it. Like frozen pizza, frozen vegetables pretty much frozen anything, Lunch meats etc.
None of this is at the Village Fresh Market. Although they do have, Produce, Meats, Fish, Bakery and a limited Beer selection
It is not a full service Grocery Store it’s more like an Ethnic food store.
May 27, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I just went to this grocery store the other day and googled it online now only to find this ridiculous post.
You would be unable to buy 4th of July food at this grocery store?! Give me a break! We stopped by there Memorial Weekend and bought fresh potato salad by the pound, as well as bags of chips and a case of very “American” pop!
Sure, there was cactus salad next to the potato & pasta salads, and there are probably things you’ve never seen before next to the hamburger buns, but don’t try to act like they don’t have what you’re looking for!
May 28, 2009 at 10:03 am
Wow! and you must of paid a fortune for it? It’s not exactly a discount store like Butera, Mejers Walmart, Aldi’s etc.
It’s a specialty shop not a full service grocery store.
I dare you to find a New York Strip Steak VFM or anybody who know’s it even exists.
This article was about what this store replaced. Carpentersville’s east side has been vacated by full service grocery stores like Eagle, Aldi’s, Jewel and in East Dundee, Dominick’s. Just to be replaced by ethic orientated, high dollar food markets.
I believe “Elginjessica” you have missed the point. People who use to shop in their own town are now forced to shop in other towns giving away tax dollars that could be used here in Carpentersville!
April 12, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I forgot, I didn’t See any dog food!
April 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm
“Potato Chips, frozen Burgers, Johnsonville or equivalent Brats, Italian Sausages Hot dog and Hamburger buns, Potato Salad, Cole Slaw, cases of beer etc.”
So none of these items are available at the Fresh Market? I haven’t had the chance to go in, but I will be on the lookout for stuff like this, and I suppose the shelves will speak for themselves. I’ll make an attempt to remain open, but one way or another, a little walk through the store should speak volumes…
April 12, 2008 at 6:07 pm
please do so, I’ve been in there 3 times it’s a little crowded when you go late in the day.
It’s nice that you keep an open mind.
April 15, 2008 at 7:52 pm
It took me a couple of days to find a chance to make it there, but I just went by and found every item on your with the exception of frozen burgers, and that’s only because I didn’t remember to look for them. But within a minute or two, I had found the hot dog/hamburger buns, fresh cole slaw, potato and macaroni salad from the service deli, beer of all kinds, potato chips, fresh sausage from the meat dept in addition to the packed stuff in the case… on and on and on. All there, I was in there maybe 5 min.
So we go back to my prior question: “What specific items are you buying there that are unavailable at the Fresh Market? If you can’t reasonably answer that question, then you’re definition of an “un-American” grocery store is not related to the actual items stocked but something else…”
April 19, 2008 at 11:53 am
So… no comment.
April 20, 2008 at 9:59 am
sorry Mr jahlf,
I did see some Additions to the products, for Instance I found Colby cheese, American Cheese stuck in a 6 ft cooler with Johnsonville Brats between the Fish Counter and the Meat Counter a bit strange. It certainly wasn’t in the Dairy Products with the rest of the Mexican cheese. “figure that”?
They have cans and cans and Cans of Jalapeño peppers that are single faced in one of the aisles. I’d Imagine there’ll be some changes depending on certain product demand and I’ve seen of it just in the matter of a week . I’ll check again sometime in the near future.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=175363
It’s become obvious that you want to spat about the little things but, Look at it this way My Mother in Law of 75 years of age or even myself cannot find everything we want as we could at Jewel.
I have already gone into Village Fresh market with a list in hand and only spent $55 then went into Jewel in Algonquin and finished up with my list and spent $141
These people are getting Old and if they new, which some probably had a feeling would of left already to a kinder more hospitable place for Village Elders rather than stay in their own Village where they’ve seen their children and their Grandchildren grow up.
You see, people came to this community because it had all the resources for people to raise a family have a place to shop and be entertained. Now we have newcomers “Fresh” that have the same needs but don’t have the same taste’s or Language!
Sooooo kick out the Old and welcome the New. $$$$$$$$
I don’t Think you see the Big picture here Mr.Jhalf.
April 21, 2008 at 6:58 am
It seems the big picture is that there’s a big transition going on from one set of residents who came in here a while ago and a new set of residents who are here now.
Both chose C’ville in large part to the low cost of housing.
If the first set had been able to do something to turn the low-cost town they moved into into a higher-cost town while they were here, the second set would have picked somewhere else to move into, and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
April 21, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Yes there’s a transition going on here and is accelerated by poor decisions from private parties and government. I can tell you from experience that my parents bought their house new in 1957 on Sioux Avenue they lived their till 2002 after my mother died and my father went into an Elder care Facility.
We sold the house to my nephew and his family who stayed till 2005 when their only child had to go to School. They registered their son at Sunny Hill. After the first year they decided to leave Carpentersville and their reason was there was to many Spanish speaking children at Sunny Hill, and couldn’t find any friends his age that spoke English, they ended up moving to Hampshire. They sold the House to some Hispanic that gave him $145,000 Cash for the House.
What’s going to happen to my In-laws house on Delaware Street? probably the same thing. Just like my neighbors on Butte Ln., both sides of me, Sold to Hispanics that don’t speak English.
With all the Churches, Stores, and Restaurants in Spanish, what English speaking couples with Kids would dare buy a house on the East side.
Let’s get serious, Nobody’s looking at the Grand scope of things here.
English speaking people no longer find the east side of Carpentersville suitable for raising Children, or anything else for that matter. Our Village government has allowed this to happen by not planning to serve all the residents on the east side. Just like a creation of TIF districts on the east side, who’s that going to help? besides Besingers and the Spanish speakers. Evidence proves that Carpentersville doesn’t have a clue on what to do with the east side but, let it go.
If we had a plan, we could approve or disprove certain businesses in certain areas. Like we did with the Hooka lounge or an additional Liquor store on the East side. Now there should be a moratorium on Mexican Grocery stores on the east side, and we should be actively seeking stores to help balance the east side as we should of done with the Village fresh market,too late.
If Spanish speaking store owners want signs on their building the sign ordinance should read, No only Spanish signs, signs will be bilingual. There are ways to keep a community diversified without making some feel uncomfortably in their own town as is the case today with our Elders.
We are neglecting the needs for English speaking people, but nobody cares, yourself included.
I am here to Speak for my Elder In-laws, My Son and Grandchildren and the rest of my extended family on the east side. While you use the term “transition” so lightly, that transition is hurting many people, that don’t e-mail, or go to meetings or write editorials because their busy taking care of themselves or their family.
If this transition process is allowed to continue, In time the east side will be all Hispanics, speaking the Spanish Language. Is that what we want segregation or a diversified community?
Richard
April 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm
The return of Segregation?
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0718-04.htm
For veterans of the desegregation fights of the 1960s and ’70s, these figures point to schools that are becoming more ethnically and racially polarized. As a result, they say, minorities aren’t receiving the quality education they need, and white students won’t learn to live in a multiracial society.
Their answer: new policies to curb racial isolation.
Heres part of the problem;
April 22, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I think a moratorium on “Mexican grocery stores” is too little, too late, and not the issue. I think there’s a point at which change will only happen gradually, and East C’ville has probably arrived (more like long passed) that point.
The bottom line is, the east side can use any businesses that will improve the image and look of the 25 corridor, and Fresh Market is a huge improvement over the “Illusion’s.” Maybe if a few more nice looking businesses move in (“Mexican,” “American,” or whatever), the next step will be attraction from businesses that are more “American.” As far as I can see, the Fresh Mkt’s signs (especially the main signs) are English-only (I haven’t parked in front of the rolling marquee to see if it has Spanish, but from about 15 drive-bys have only seen English), and the fluorescent signs in the window have Spanish as a pretty obvious secondary language.
I think it is short-sided to keep places vacant indefinitely waiting for a Jewel, TGIFriday’s or some other “American” business to move in. Here’s a news flash, we get picky and wait for that and only that, and NO businesses will move in.
It’s clever to use segregation as an argument for the East side, but in the context of your previous statements, it comes off as silly.
It’s also sad to see a DH reporter making an honest attempt to report something in C’ville in a positive light, only to see it get immediately torn down by people who can’t handle a couple extra shelves of tortillas. It’s the one piece of good PR we’ve had in a while.
April 22, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I appreciate your comments and it seems we might agree on some thoughts here.
The Village Fresh market is in deed a fine looking store and it does have everything posted in English as well as in Spanish. Everyone I have talked too, is very kind and helpful. It also sets a nice Architectural standard for the east side of Carpentersville
Even though you think my segregation argument is silly I am sincere in my thoughts and truly believe that it is the true underlining problem here in Carpentersville and I am talking about the Village not the Village board.
The decision that was made to add this store to our mix here, I still say it was haphazard at best and helps facilitate the segregation of this community and a possible financial problem for the smaller ma and pop Mexican grocery stores. They were probably hoping that a Dominick’s or Butera might of taking that spot also where Village Fresh market is today. I bet La Ilusion would of liked to of known this in advance.
To fill stores nilly wily, that isn’t “planning” That’s desperation.
Maybe the Village should have a census taken by local residents on what they would need or don’t need in the area and then with those statistics we could create the Villages plan on what’s needed and where, then we could share these Statistics with future developers, Landlords, entrepreneurs etc.
This would work in favor for all in several ways, the public could get commercial stores/ services they want and Business owners could place their businesses in places with minimal risk based on the specific data supplied By “Carpentersville”.
Our comprehensive plan does not account for specific resident needs.
http://vil.carpentersville.il.us/ComDev/FinalCompPlan.pdf
It’s very general and talks mostly about Cosmetic and Zoning Improvements, But that won’t last until you can Unite a Diversified community by having everything here for everyone.
Richard
April 23, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Brenda,
I TOTALLY agree with you. What a disappointment!!! I stopped in there last night to pick up a few things and check the place out. First of all, just trying to find something I recognized and could read the label took awhile. Then a 12-pack of pop is $4.59???!!! Come on!!
Why is it that we have 4 Mexican grocery stores in our area but not 1 “American” grocery store??? I guess I still have to run to BP if I need a gallon of milk!!
April 23, 2008 at 4:53 pm
“First of all, just trying to find something I recognized and could read the label took awhile.”
The first thing you encounter when walking into the store is produce. Apparently you don’t eat fruit or vegetables enough to recognize them, the next thing you find is bread… then meat… then milk…
“Why is it that we have 4 Mexican grocery stores in our area but not 1 “American” grocery store???”
Maybe it’s because too many people live here who walk into stores and don’t recognize food when they see it.
April 23, 2008 at 8:05 pm
“Then a 12-pack of pop is $4.59???!!!”
There are two signs up today saying 12 packs of Coca-Cola are 3 for $9 ($3 each, FYI).
Must be nice not having to worry about facts when making points.
April 24, 2008 at 9:16 am
LilRosie, the above column and comments are not mind. Yes, some of the prices for package goods are high and yes, the store caters more to the Hispanics than those pesky Caucasians.
BUT, it’s a clean store that looks sharp on the outside. It’s going to bring in a ton of sales taxes to our Village.
Yes Richard, it would be nice to have a moratorium on anymore Hispanic stores, at least to preserve some type of diversity on our eastside. We live in a Hispanic Ghetto now and I believe we now lack the diversity that people like trustee Linda “get those monkees out of here” Sliwinski likes to brag about.
Just my thoughts,
Brenda
April 24, 2008 at 10:38 am
Aunt Brenda, Do you think that the Village Fresh Market will bring in more taxes than the old Jewel did?
My concern with the taxes, I think the other Mexcican stores will have less taxes for C’ville. Now that the Village fresh market will take most of their customers.
I think most of the east side Caucasions will shop in Algonquin another potential loss of Taxes.
Richard
April 24, 2008 at 11:47 am
“I think most of the east side Caucasions will shop in Algonquin another potential loss of Taxes.”
I drive there 2-4 times a day and regularly see Caucasians walking in the parking lot or driving in and out of the lot. Just a day or so ago, I saw an elderly Caucasian gentleman walking from the store, about to start walking west on Lake Marian.
It’s anecdotal, but shows that at least some Caucasians are using it.
We have been driving to Woodman’s to shop and have loved the fact that we can get prices about as low as you find in the area, but be keeping our taxes in C’ville. Now, we have made a couple of trips to the Fresh Market to get produce there, because it’s good quality, low prices, and convenient to us. It’s great to have the ability to run and quickly pick up some fresh tomatoes or peppers or something for the evening’s dinner and feel good about the prices. I think that’s pretty much the definition of “Fresh Market.”
April 24, 2008 at 4:11 pm
There are two signs up today saying 12 packs of Coca-Cola are 3 for $9 ($3 each, FYI).
Well today is the 24th and Squirt and only Squirt is on sale 3 for $9.
I also see the occasional Caucasian go into Village Fresh Market. I can see it from the rear of my house.
I would imagine that not everyone has seen the inside because it’s still a new store. It will takes months to see really whats going to happen with this store and it’s affects on others.
Richard
April 24, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Yes Richard, I think Fresh Market will bring in more sales tax revenue than Jewel. Of course that won’t happen, until we recover the $250,000 that the Village gave to Fresh Market for the new parking lot.
Yes, the smaller Hispanic stores will suffer from a loss customers to Fresh Market. Will this in turn result in a loss of revenue to Carpentersville, I don’t know. Will it lead to more abandon store fronts, maybe.
Just my thoughts,
Brenda
April 29, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I was born and raised in C’Ville since 1958. Left for a long time and came back a few years ago. How sad this town has become. It was always a nice town where you could leave your house unlocked, take a late evening walk and could shop locally for anything your heart desired.
This town has gone to hell! I can’t believe what’s happened and I feel the same way as Richard and the others. We do NEED a full service grocery store in town. Jewel carried ethnic food, why couldn’t they do the same with this store. I can’t find Lean Cusine Pizza, Sargento’s Light string cheese, Millet seed bread, Brussel sprouts in butter sauce, not to mention several other items. Village Fresh Market reminds me of a Caputos store.
What happened to the beautiful Mall at the south end of the shopping center??????? What a hell whole. Use to have nice shops, restaurant & Lounge etc.
That money would have been put to better use cleaning up the town and redoing the roads as well as helping those truly in need.
Another thing I find ver strange is that it takes 2 incomes to run a household these days, yet there are so many women all over town just walking around when they should be working!
April 29, 2008 at 4:31 pm
schm5566, it must have been a big shock to come back to your home town and find it has changed for the worse.
Being here for 49 years, change has happened slowly. One store at a time, one Church at a time.
Old man Leonard Besinger died and his family took over but, they don’t have his ambition or vision.
My suggestion, as I said before is to have Carpentersville buy the old shopping center and re-develop it. That’s the only way we are going to Improve the commercial property on the east side.
Our politicians have their eyes on the easy stuff, the west side where it is more attractive to developers, but nobody want to tackle the hard stuff. That’s dealing with bad commercial landlords who are more likely part of the problem than the solution.
Carpentersville is actually considering TIF districts around and on Besingers property, which I think is a bad Idea. Just like giving the Village Fresh Market/ Besinger a $250,000 incentive to remodel his own building and parking lot just to lease it out again while profiting from the taxpayers donations.
We should not have to given incentives to the Besingers, they should take pride in their community and properties, but they don’t in my opinion.
Richard
April 30, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Richard, yes I was shocked as my father had lived here till he passed a few years back. So yes, over the years I have watched the town go downhill. Everyone used to keep their homes & yards nice, which very few still do.
I have an elderly lady across from me that complains about all the clothes and crap in the front yards of homes. What happened to hanging your personal item in the back yard!? LOL
I wish they would have put Woodmans in where Jewel was. They have just about everything you can think of and are cheaper. At Village, I couldn’t believe they only had 2 types of crackers..Ritz (way over priced) and saltines.
Between all of those on wellfare and the Wic program, and people having to shop elsewhere, do you really think they will survive? I don’t think they will. Wonder if they will put anything in the old Dominicks store?
Jan
April 30, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Jan, I am very concerned about the east side. I doubt if anything good will ever be put in these vacant stores along route 25.
There’s plans to move Walmart from East Dundee to West Dundee across from the Home depot, but that store is suppose to be a SuperWalmart.
In addition, there’s also some speculation that Spring Hill Mall is also considering it’s options. Considering Algonquin Commons and the Retail Shopping Centers being built at route 59 & route 72 these are very competitive retail markets.
This is all bad news, I hope things don’t get worse, But we must be positive.
Richard
May 2, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Richard,
I think over time the stores will just dissappear!
It’s amazing how everything is moving over to Randall Rd.
It wasn’t all that long ago that Randall Rd. was all corn fields…
On my way home last night, I passed the Channel 7 news truck…thought….what’s up????????
Extra tax on our local gas stations for the village, which I did hear about the day before from another town citizen who now not only with the rest of us have to shop for food elsewhere, now we can get our gas elsewhee as well!
Leonard Besinger seems to be doing very well with his new subdivision in Marengo…maybe he would offer those lower housing?????????
May 4, 2008 at 7:39 am
Jan,
I saw the Channel 7 news van at the Shell at 25 and Hazard rd. I’m betting it was there to report on Carpentersville’s Gas Tax hike that started May 1.
I drive 30 mile a day to work and hardly ever do I buy Gas in Carpentersville, let alone Food. The most shopping I do in Carpentersville is at Walgreens and H & L liquors “The Illegal Alien Bank”
I was hoping That the Fresh Market would also of been a viable place for me to shop, but that didn’t happen.
I agree that the East side probably will have all of it’s stores vacant some day. We have a good start to those Vacancies all you have to do is look at the Rt. 25 corridor. With a few exceptions it’s generally all vacant or Mexican orientated.
May 4, 2008 at 9:50 pm
“Another thing I find ver strange is that it takes 2 incomes to run a household these days, yet there are so many women all over town just walking around when they should be working!”
We (wife child and I) are a one income family and that one income is by choice so our daughter can have a parent raising her instead of a day care (my wife, who holds a Master’s Degree). I would say what takes two incomes is “keeping up w/ the Jones’.” Our one income is very meager, but we make it work. Sometimes I wonder if we’d be better of with more people parenting as a full-time job than working to have the money to buy more “stuff” while their kids spend 8 hrs a day at a day care.
May 7, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Richard,
What do you mean by: “The Illegal Alien Bank” ?
I do know that liquor staore do cash checks for Mexican people, so is that what you are referring to?
Yes it was due to the tax increase. At one point I thought the population not too long ago was still mostly white people?
How come you need to press 1 for english…..where is press 4 for French, press 5 for polish and 6 for german….
Oh I agree and would love nothing more than to see families be able to have the Mom home raising the kids the way life use to be. Heck if I were able to afford to stay home I’d be watching my grandson, but unfortunately my 2 lazy cats do not work! LOL
What I was referring to is the amount of women at the stores with food stamps and WIC program asst. who are perfectly healthy and should be working if they can not pay to feed their children. I understand people need help once in a while but this town is unreal!
Also I’m not talking about keeping up with the Jones, I’m just trying to keep up…
All in all are goverment is so screwed up and needs to be taught the charity belongs at home!
May 12, 2008 at 1:09 pm
sorry if it took so long, I was out of town
now to your “response”
That was a little humor but, true. I know Gus and several of his employees at H & L Liquors. They have told me that if the Illegals were to leave, it would hurt them financially. That’s probably true for many Stores on the east side.
As far as seeing women who don’t work walking around town. I know what your talking about. There is a lot of free services given out these days that the Tax payers are paying for.
My wife doesn’t work either but, she is disabled. I have been the only one employed for over 18 years. We had only one child, which was good considering that raising children can be a financial strain.
I think, one of the reasons could be that most of these families have as many kids as possible once they get into this country to limit their chances of being deported. Then they suck up all the free services provided by you and me which we never had. Then they have all their relatives move in with them for financial support, hence all of the cars in the driveways and back yards at least that’s what my neighbors do.
May 13, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Oh how true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe we should get a few million people and take over Mexico!
Kick all of them out and take it over!!!!!!!!!!!!! Change everything.
Heck I’d rather be warmer than cold! What fools they are…………!
We could call it the New America and get business’s to come in…..dump their flag and raise ours…..
I’m ready…let’s all go!
Oh, another thing….did you realize you have to put a quarter to use a cart at VFM. Plus no one can speak english so they never answer my questions……I might go there with a long list and get the manager!
May 14, 2008 at 5:56 pm
“I might go there with a long list and get the manager!’
Jan, that’s an excellent suggestion. Then at that time you could tell him that there are still Caucasians living here on the east side that would love to shop in Carpentersville.
My mother in-law who’s 75 went in there for the first time the other Day. She thought I was fibbing about the merchandise they carry she said ” The produce looked good, but their prices were very high and they didn’t carry many items I ‘d buy” now this Lady lives to shop. She doesn’t mind going to different stores to get what she wants. I don’t think she be returning to The Village fresh Market any time soon.
I’m just glad she didn’t think I was fibbing.
Richard
May 19, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Yes Richard, it does cost about the same as Jewel.
Now I have to stick to Woodman’s, Butera or Jewel!
I detest shopping to begin with, so I am NOT a fan of having to go to multi stores to do shopping that should be under one roof which we all know VFM is not. I’m glad she got to see for herself that you were speaking the truth.
Does she ever go to the senior center at 25 & 68?
Wondering what they all have to say about it there.
I took a Lady there to check it out and it’s a very nice place. If it had been built when my Father was alive, he would have taught them a thing or two in the painting dept. LOL
Well, the seniors can’t go shopping but they play BINGO!
I’m sure they would prefer to shop locally due to their income levels.
May 24, 2008 at 10:11 am
Jan, We’ve been shopping at Sam’s Club, Butera and Jewel. My mother In law and Wife do most the Bulk food shopping once a month.
My mother in law still lives with her Husband who’s elderly and disabled he needs help to move around. So she tries to be home as much as possible. They have gone as far is to get meals on wheels. Which I found strange because my Mother In law loves to cook. But with taken care of her Husband it’s taken up a lot of her time.
My wifes Grandmother who lived next door to us,and my Grandmother who lived with my Parents use to go to the Senior center on Pine street, that was almost 20 years ago. They played Bingo there and at the VFW ladies auxiliary here on Lake Marian rd.
Shopping for the Elderly has become a huge inconvenience on the East side. Still I don’t think our Village Government has a clue as to what’s happening to our Elder or even general population and all the affects of their decisions.
Raise Gas and Real Estate Taxes, remove local shopping for Caucasians and send us all further away from our houses causing us to spend Hundreds of dollars extra in Gas, just because the lack of planning and leadership.
Their leaving the Caucasian Old timers and residents out in the cold here on the East side.
October 11, 2009 at 4:34 pm
This is so stupid, you know what im hispanic and i live in the carpentersville area. I believe that carpentersville is providing their residents with what they belive is needed like the Village fresh market, because we too pay taxes…. and you know what carpentersville is not going to supply all of the american foods in the world just because you need some it is the majority that counts….. and some americans actually do like mexican food aswell …… so if you dont like it you dont know what you are missing out on.
October 15, 2009 at 1:08 pm
E31181218, I am a Resident of Carpentersville and within 1000 ft of the Village Fresh Market.
You stated that “carpentersville is providing their residents with what they belive is needed like the Village fresh market, because we too pay taxes….”
I also have paid my taxes for the last fifty years here in Carpentersville only to be overrun by a large population of Illegal aliens, needing their fix of Authentic Mexican food provided by Authentic Mexican nationals.
Now, I see you have no problem in sending elderly long time residents of Carpentersville to another town to buy their food while the new comers can enjoy the convenience of buying the same foods they would buy when they lived in Mexico.
I’m Sorry, I am an American of foreign descents.
Saying that, I enjoy all kinds of Cuisines and would enjoy a place where you could purchase all of them, Like Jewel, Butera, Meijers, Joe Caputo’s Woodmans etc.
All of these aforementioned have a great selection of a variety of cuisines and also have better quality and pricing.
Village Fresh Market is nothing more than a glorified Mexican Convenient store with the small portions and high prices to Boot.